Besides when PR Beyonder and PR Molecular Man fought , we know MM was Beyonder's only friend. Forum Posts. 10 months ago. If TOAA comes to DC and try to challenge The Presence , TOAA will lose since he won't be omnipotent anymore. Michael Demiurgos >> Pre-Retcon Beyonder >>>>> Battler. LT's powers/status was never set, hence the whole retcon deal. Ruphas not in baseline L1A, Ruphas can easily defeated Alovenus which is rated L1A character. Current Beyonder should be very close to PR I'd say, they've established that the current version hasn't been retconned to a Ivory King and his final feat was leaving the Marvel multiverse. The Demon of Elru. Lucifer WINS. also the living tribunal couldnt even do anything to PR beyonder. Doom. Just no. Pre-ret Beyonder was not god, and he was not TOAA. I think you could argue rather convincingly that he's the 2nd moat powerful character in all of fiction, only behind TOAA. The one who shines like Gold upon the Sea of Chaos can beat Cosmic Armor Superman. ago. But tbh I think Lucifer is just a smarter fighter. Going with PR Beyonder. Report Save. PR Beyonder. Exists alongside all of Heaven in Creation inside of the story. Many People are Underestimating Pre Retcon Beyonder in The Comments but they are forgetting some thing. 0. 0. Living Tribunal. I don't know a. From incredibly superficial research, it's the whole "Shadow/Dark Reflection of God" thing that has been knocking around in DC since the old Swamp Thing days. He is bigger than the multiverse, which is infinite in size. Some dude told me this guy was strong but i think goku can with with. 0. Kryptonian (Superman) 2. 8551. He was a way wanked character. Morals off. ago. The Beyonder was literally the most powerful entity in the Marvel universe before he was retconned. The Two fight in the beyond realm. Meanwhile, the Presence is said to have been created by external forces and is. #1 KalKent1297. PR Beyonder is literally beyond the abilities of all things within the Marvel-verse combined. This isn't a battle,Its an execution. PR Beyonder is intended to be a god within another dimension but this doesn't then make him incapable of being compared to TOAA, especially because PR Beyonder would be effected by the universe. A universe that is more powerful than the multiverse. Now picture a third Brother that is so big, the Amalgam Brothers are 2 drops of water next to the ocean. I haven't been keeping up, but that sounds interesting. Martian (Martian Manhunter) 3. The Overvoid could be the Beyond-Realm before PR Molecule Man created a pinpoint in the Beyond-Realm to the Earth-616 universe. 4 years ago. The character plays a more antagonistic role in the 1985 sequel, Secret Wars II, in which he takes human form to learn about desire but threatens to destroy the multiverse out of increasing frustration. Bleach should lose in nearly everything. Gen. Retconned/Modern Beyonder < Ivory Kings. (The bKorvac wields Power Cosmic. The heavy hitters for team marvel are PR beyonder, PR molecule man, post-secret wars III molecule man, living tribunal, multiversal eternity, multiversal death. " @Pr_Beyonder: LT could very well beat Lucifer. 63 results. buster wise, and low level reality warper, that stuffPR Beyonder feats, Chuck Norris facts, Woody Wood Pecker whatevers. Wiki Points. Hell is no where near big enough for this fight. pr beyonder was to kill death and all the abstracts (eternity,watcher,LT,galactus,mephisto,celestials) begged him but he killed death anyway. Beyonder was the one above all before TOAAPre-Retcon Beyonder kills Thanos no matter what the circumstances are. But Beyonder not only owned the entire MU, he did it casually, and his reality warping makes GEB's powers a non-factor. Also, I'm using PR Beyonder before he was retconned into a cosmic cube. Follow 6024. Thus he is more more powerful than Fulcrum who may or may not be. He was much, much stronger than fundamental forces of the universe such as Galactus, Entropy, Eternity, etc. The thought of Beyonder defeating SCP 3812 because he was able to destroy a billion universes is laughable. PR Beyonder was above all beings in marvel. The man with the blue privates exists only b/c the man from beyond allows him to. 2. Michael and Lucy. #1. Next panel PR Beyonder moonwalks onto the scene. deactivated-5ee15da0e0aad. He was said to be millions of times more powerful than the entire marvel universe(?). The beyonder can warp reality and time as well as creating a real life setting. Jul 30, 2018. There's a few tossups though, I think the Bleach verse has the speed and skill to pull out a win here or there. M. Round 2: CAS VS PR Beyonder with Living Tribunal. I got this idea from the "PR-Beyonder vs Galactus" thread. 8 years ago. Post-Retcon Beyonder vs a Full-Powered Franklin Richards. Adm1ralSnackbar. PR Molecule Man. Pr beyonder. agreed the PR beyonder was kind of like a super amped version of the loeb force 13 years ago. 8 years ago. And the beyonders are destroying the entire Multiverse with no opposition,so they have no equal either. His power was millions of times greater than all of Marvel combined. 0. . Pre-retcon beyonder 1 on 1. So yeah PR Beyonder would stomp Lucifer. also i've read that suggsverse is basically a troll comic. He was not aware of other Beyonders and misinterpreted his personal universe as everything in existence. That feat alone puts him solidly above Lucifer who's best "multiversal" feat was destroying the mirrors, which he didn't even do by himself. Magic, on the other hand, is stuff you can’t do with science, it’s the realm of basically gods in Fate. Beyonder is supose to represent the power the writers themselves have over the comics. PR Beyonder was specifically the sum total of a multiverse that dwarfs the Marvel multiverse. Nihilist. PR Beyonder is millions of times stronger than the Marvel multiverse. The Beyonder is at full power and wants to destroy the universe, you can assemble a team of 10 cosmic beings from Marvel and DC to stop him, out of t. Neither is the fact that PR Beyonder was millions of times more powerful than everything in the entirety of the multiverse. Thus he is more more powerful than Fulcrum who may or may not be. @laflux said: MOM. They might ruffle his soul-glo hair though, which wouldn't end well for them. Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine PagesRound 1: Thanos has 1 month. PR Beyonder is on par with TOAA but people tend to put him below because TOAA are Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. Copy. lizyatearita. Pre-ret Beyonder was not god, and he was not TOAA. PR beyonder. 13 years agoAnything they can do the PR beyonder can do if not even do better. " 13 years ago Pr_BeyonderRandom encounter. 13 years ago. In the OVA Z made it clear him and masaki were experiments. lazerbeak. Minor nitpick. PR Beyonder is comparable to at least 3 magicians combined, he stomps unbelievably hardPR Beyonder changed the entirety of the universe at his whim. Wiki Points. BEYONDERGOD. A fraction is still much more power than basic reality warping. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright. Win by death, KO, incapPR beyonder's own assession puts him millions of times stronger than the multiverse. Here, Alden and Neon fall out of Nil after dying and land in the 6th. Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine PagesIt could be argued that the HOTU is as powerful as pre-retcon Beyonder, but even if you were to successfully argue that, it's two beings of PR-Beyonder level power against one HOTU. He looks cooler, and has a cooler name. Jul 30, 2018. Follow 75. 0. The PR Beyonder isn't from the universe and isn't bound by its limitations. However, PR Beyonder is an extremely powerful reality warper and is simply way out of Dr. Basically this. 4 years ago. 5. Goku vs Pre Recton Beyonder. %Pr "this is not pre-con beyonder, it's cosmic cube being beyonder and a full power PF would be white crown who both these people can't beat 14 years ago. Edit: Oh yea, pretty sure that Oblivion is the one that. Another statement made about. TOAA is above Thanos with the HOTU, a writer is> the written character. PR Beyonder was TOAA before TOAA was ever a thought. The Molecule Man and Galactus that Spider-Man defeated with the powers. Yes he is, I don't expect you to read comics to know that. Lucifer Morningstar rated 1A. The beat LT list is: TOAA, anyone with the Heart of the Universe, PR Beyonder, PR Moleculeman, MoM The match or near match LT list is: and experienced Infinity Gauntlet User The upscale but still. He tanks an attack that would destroy several billion dimensions like nothing from PR Molecule. PR Beyonder. "You'll notice every cosmic being/entity in there, from the LT to Eternity. Lucifer is stated to be second ONLY TO THE JEWISH GOD (Yahweh). Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine PagesPR-Beyonder being from outside of the Living Tribunals domain (whoch he has ultimate judgement over) was really his only weakness. Share. Karkus. All of the sudden Deku gets a power up and You Say Run starts playing. Mxyzptlk. Round 5, 6, 7 and 8: same as rounds 1, 2, 3 and 4 except that Batman is bloodlusted, he is working with Doom and Reed Richards and has 100x preparation time. Well, uh. Alot of people seem to have hard time giving HOM Wanda her due. All are child's play compared to what Bugs could do. Followers. Beyonder was stated to be MILLIONS of times more powerful than THE MULTI-VERSE(at the time equal to OMNI-VERSE) COMBINED. 3 years ago. #1 Edited By gokupwnzalllol. . -5. The PR Beyonder saw the multiverse as a. I’m goin wit Batman. Pre Retcon Beyonder has been nearly killed before by lesser being and has been outsmarted more than once by people so far below his power level. TR was created by this. FollowAny who PR Beyonder wins against any Jesus since his only "feats" are raising the dead, reviving after 3 days, turning water into wine and some other bits of lesser magic. The Overvoid could be the Beyond-Realm before PR Molecule Man created a pinpoint in the Beyond-Realm to the Earth-616 universe. I'm siding withBeyonder's been retconned at least twice afaik, his half-a-Cube-Being version was a pretty serious reality warper too. "GL Kilowog >Odin Thor? "Perhaps not in sheer power, but in implementation. A . Due to the fact that he is an agent of TOAA (basically god), The Living Tribunal is more powerful than any other entity, including PRB. PR Beyonder over AM. LT gets rekt by beings above multiversal power, Dax Mandrakk was going to eat all of creation, including everything outside the multiverse that made the multiverse look miniscule. Goku vs Pre Recton Beyonder. PR Beyonder (Marvel) Takes A DC Gauntlet. Round 1: Molecule Man from the pre-retcon Beyonder era. The Living Tribunal, PR-Beyonder, PR-Molecule Man, Lucifer Morningstar, Michael Demiurgos, HOTU Thanos, Scathan the Approver, Mister Mxyzptlk. PR-Beyonder was broken, but still not TOAA. -You may take DNA samples from 5 different Alien Races from any fictional media. PR Beyonder is intended to be a god within another dimension but this doesn't then make him incapable of being compared to TOAA, especially because PR Beyonder would be effected by the universe. elaine ftw. Beyonder would laugh and blink it out of existence. 02-27-2015, 03:13 AM #3. 801. Outside of TOAA, this is the only time and the only being with the right power to top PR Beyonder, imo. There's a LOT of weird hax in Bleach, not even including Aizen. Not only that, but the mirrors contained nothing more than aborted universes. The Crimson King decides he's bored and decides to start trolling other verses. The Beginners Guide To Comics: Come Join The Discord: Beyonder was somehow tricked by dr doom and lost his power which is dumb tbh. M. I'm using universe very loosely here; we're probably on the scale of. The Living Tribunal was able to stop the Infinity Gaunlet from working, while PR Molecule Man stated to be stronger than all other beings in the Multiverse, Including Abstracts, and the Living Tribunal . ago. One Above All (Stan Lee) Fulcrum (Jack Kirby) Living Tribunal. And matched Mxy at one point. Wiki Points. Beyonder is the bigger god. @Pr_Beyonder: immortal means unable to die of age or sickness Thor isn't coughing on him or waiting around for him to age to death he's smashng his head into chuncks of mushy brain 13 years ago. I do not believe he was omniscient and that is a big difference. Even PR Beyonder is just an infinite dimensional reality warper, and the Archetypes whom are significantly weaker than the Outer Gods control infinite dimensional multiverses and beings like chess. Dr Manhattan isn't a match for Galactus, and Galactus is a mere insect to the Beyonder. And,DC cosmology is encompassed by the story of Superman CAS embodies. . The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. Friend showed me a comic on this guy about a year ago,told me it was a very popular fan- fic,I was orginally going to make this my first thread but IPre Retcon Beyonder. 7. I think you could argue rather convincingly that he's the 2nd moat powerful character in all of fiction, only behind TOAA. His weakness is a lack of understanding of. 0. Dr Manhattan Vs The Beyonder. ReplyFor this fight: PR MM was written to be above any entity from Marvel Ominverse, except PR Beyonder of course. A character debated as though his guns can kill the beyonder, one of the few characters people consider to be able to take on the beyonder or hurt the beyonder. Perfect teamwork. Reviews: 0. . #1 Edited By bluepride1234. Take the hill. I don't think Oblivion can be destroyed. So I thought I'd try to level the playing field. #1. Follow 7842. PR Beyonder was TOAA in the beyond realm. Yeah PR Beyonder is completely broken Reply [deleted] • Additional comment actions. Perfect teamwork. PR Beyonder and it’s not a fight. IMO, PR Beyonder can outdo anything Bill can do and more. #44 Edited By Debunker020202. 13 years ago. If allowed, Thanos with HOTU or astral regulator is top tier. 4 years ago. And boy, DC is supremely addicted to crises. He dwarfed every cosmic entity minus toaa. Beyonder has curb-stomped Celestials and even killed Death, a thing that was so irreversible that not even the most powerful of beings could fix it, besides himself. this would be no different than me or you creating a character and then saying "oh look he can beat Pr Beyonder". 1 Winner: The Beyonder. Black winter lost to king thor with the power of galactus. Manhattan has never shown any feats to even suggest him being at Beyonder's level. also, according to the bible, he can be killed, as the incarnation of Jesus, with a few spear pokes and soem crucifiction. The unfortunate thing is that Lucifer and Michael best most of the characters listed there,and only really get stalemated by like 2. Due to the fact that he is an agent of TOAA (basically god), The Living Tribunal is more powerful than any other entity, including PRB. Lol good joke about Lucifer beating CAS. PR Beyonder is more powerful than Marvels TOAA(who was defeated by Thanos with an Astral Regulator). And the beyonders are destroying the entire Multiverse with no opposition,so they have no equal either. 7 years ago. ) The main issue here would be whether Beyonder. What was he, and why was he so powerful? All i know about. With Marvel having beings like the LT, Protege,PR Beyonder,PR Molecule Man,Scanthan The Approver,Multi-Eternity,Oblivion,Life Bringer Galactus and many others. PR Beyonder was also a beast, without equal that was ever created orignally in it's existence (by Marvel). What we know about Mark Miller's Marvel 1985 is that. Round 3: Both team up to take on Galactus and Eternity. 9 years ago. When a guy who can repair the entire multiverse with. Oct 30, 2006. 13 years ago. Hulk tanking a hit from Beyonder is an outlier too by the way. PR Beyonder is more powerful than Marvels TOAA(who was defeated by Thanos with an Astral Regulator). 05-03. Start off twenty feet away. He was much, much stronger than fundamental forces of the universe such as Galactus, Entropy, Eternity, etc. This is way larger than the entire Marvel verse and DC verse. Forums. Like, that kind of thing has to matter, if not, Flash can speed-steal Odin, or Galactus, or PR Beyonder. Forum Posts. Marvel TeamPR Beyonder & PR Molecule Man & Oblivion & Beyonders (entire Race) & Thanos & Galactus (composite) & Abstract Ent PR Beyonder:Loved the feeling of not being omnipotent and deciced I'll spare yall. And PR Beyonder isn't omnipotent either and TR is in a completely separate cosmology created by Grant Morrison with an over monitor and his monitors as angels by Grant. Yeah but I mean the presence is "generally. Manhattan has never shown any feats to even suggest him being at Beyonder's level. Iirc HotU isn’t allowed in battles given the type of power it is. Alien X (Ben 10) vs pre retcon Beyonder. He tanks an attack that would destroy several billion dimensions like nothing from PR Molecule. Doom with Beyonder's powers was afraid to use even half of it, as he worried it would destroy the universe. Marvel (and DC for that matter) didn’t have anythin beyond Multiverses back then in their cosmology. Alien X is free of any indecisiveness, and both are bloodlusted. Elaine seems to stomp everyone else, but can she defeat PR Beyonder? Nihilist. Roshi in a heartbeat. Actually i think you have a misconception of the timelines buddy that or your hating on the Marquis of death. [deleted]@Pr_Beyonder said: " can't seem to edit my post anyway Pre-Retcon Beyonder and Spectre vs Storm and Batman is probably the biggest spite Hate to hate on bugs bunny but i've seen 5-D imps do. Forum Posts. Pre-Rectonned Beyonder, the most powerful multiverse Cosmic Being Marvel has ever created. 0. PR Beyonder was 2nd only to TOAA before being retconned and would erase protege from existence. Doom. BEYONDERGOD. Originally posted by Air Legend Beyonder in a curbstomp. Funny, didn. Followers. PR Beyonder learns about his future self in Marvel (being a jobber) and is pissed off. This group is a joke compared to Celestials. Battle takes place in an infinite omniverse. Thanos (HOTU) Very debatable. Forum Posts. After his creator, Jim Shooter left Marvel, writer-editor Tom DeFalco, displeased with. Everything that could have shown up to stop PR beyonder did, and all of them failed. MM has the powers of the Beyonders, the Beyonders were still linear beings constrained and restricted by time, they were able to be killed by overwhelming power like Starbrand,. PR Beyonder had full backing by Marvel Boss, Jim Shooter to do anything he wanted. Ruphas have Higher dimensional manip. Well, uh. 11 years ago. PRB represented the combined power of an entire multiverse, one that was so large it made. living tribunal could not do a damn thing 12 years ago. It's pretty much PR Beyonder , LT & HOTU Thanos vs Lucifer Morningstar, Michael Demiurgos, full power Spectre, WF Mxy & COIE Anti Monitor , with a small assist from the rest of their teams . not_anakin. 9 years ago. The living embodiment of The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse, he utilizes his powers over reality, space, and time to observe the never-ending battle between good and evil, serving as both an ally and enemy to Earth's greatest heroes. Ultra (Ultraman) 4. #1 Edited By gokupwnzalllol. ForumsMe and a friend have been arguing over this for a long time,so we decided to make our own matches to see which of our favorites wins. Manhattan's league. After the retcon (1st one) that all changed, but not before it. That is how PR Beyonder was described, a verse so vast, that Marvel was a. Adding God Doom is just too much. MM solo's. Follow 25782. @eredin12: solar system level is roughly 150 times star level if you use our sun and solar. The Beyonders that killed all the Celestials then proceeded to shit on all the cosmic beings like The Living Tribunals. The one below all (TOBA). PR Beyonder is OP, he was originally written to be THE top entity in Marvel, there's no real beating him. Marth Kent rolls up a newspaper and hits him makes him do. Air Legend. 3rd. Wiki Points. Beyonder could honestly lose to any of the 3,but has the best chance of beating the Gentry at least 7/10. Pr Beyonder made LT his little bitch, along with everyone else in the multiverse. PM not so much. There no need to insult. Morals off, No prep, random encounter, No BFR, The battle takes place in Tokyo, Japan. User. The thing is , Beyonder shrugged off a blast that "would have destroyed 1 million dimensions". Dr Manhattan has the power to control matter as well as subatomic perception and control. User Lists: 3 #20 g2_ Beyonder curb stomps. PR Beyonder. Pre Retcon is still cooler, jist because of cosmology Expansion, defenders beyonder seems stronger but he is featless for now. Round 3 Pre-retcon Beyonder takes this and with a good level of ease. Even The. There's a LOT of weird hax in Bleach, not even including Aizen. Their mere Taikyoku trashes on both Molecule man and PR Beyonder. None of them have ever specifically resisted speed force speed stealing. Beyonder was either just omnipotent or the closest to it that anyone has gotten without being it. PR Beyonder was TOAA before TOAA was established, there was no character of TOAA before or at the time of Secret Wars 1 & 2. He was stated to be millions of times more powerful than the entire marvel multiverse. 0. Archie sonic defeated someone who could destroy millions of MULTI-VERSE zones. He. Followers. PR Beyonder was designated just under TOAA due to his Omnipotence in his own universe or something to that effect. The Living Tribunal's domain is the multiverse he's from, the Beyonder is the entire surrounding Beyond personified. Follow 3935. There's a few tossups though, I think the Bleach verse has the speed and skill to pull out a win here or there. British_Tea_Company • 7 yr.